Many thanks for the reply Andrew. Yes, just thinking about AEOI here. So on that basis, if there is a law firm trust corporation trustee and the trust just hold bonds and produces no income at all, or had only rental income, you think registration would still be required? This vastly increases the scope and it’s hard to see the rationale behind it where there is no income at all.
We had been wondering from the STEP guidance if it was only if the trust is itself a FI (having passed BOTH (STEP wording) the ‘assets test’ and the ‘managed test’ to be an ‘investment entity’. Then only if the trust is itself a FI (STEP wording ‘a trust that is a FI will be’…) either a RFI or a NRFI as a TDT. It then goes on the say that a TDT is a ‘trust that it a FI’ (ie trust must FIRST be a FI itself) where the trustees of the trust is itself a reporting financial institution and reports the information required in respect of the reportable accounts of the trust’ (presumably no reports if no income) and explains how prior to this change a TDT did not have to register but now it does.
The ATT note Urgent 31 December 2025 registration deadline for some trusts and companies (updated) | The Association of Taxation Technicians says “ A trust with investment income could alternatively be a Trustee-Documented Trust. Again this requires more than 50% of the trust’s income to come from investments, but here one of the trustees is a FI itself, typically a corporate trustee. Where the corporate trustee has agreed to take on reporting responsibilities for the trust, it is not considered a reporting FIs under FATCA or CRS. However these trusts are also required to register with HMRC by 31 December 2025. (emphasis added). This also implies that the investment income requirement must be met where there is a trust corporation trustee.
The examples at IEIM400780 - Investment Entity: Examples - HMRC internal manual - GOV.UK includes the below but the 50% investment test is met. What would be useful if to also have a list of those that don’t have to register!
Family trust with a corporate trustee
The ABC family trust’s gross income is primarily attributable to investing, reinvesting or trading in financial assets. The trust was set up on the advice of a law firm and that firm’s own corporate trustee is the trustee of the trust. The corporate trustee acts for the law firm’s clients without itself charging any fees to the clients. Even though the corporate trustee does not charge, it is a Financial Institution by virtue of being an Investment Entity. Its Related Entity (the law firm) is charging the clients for the corporate trustee’s services of managing assets, the corporate trustee therefore primarily conducts as a business, for or on behalf of a customer, the prescribed activities. This in turn means that the ABC family trust is also an Investment Entity.
What do you think, I would ideally like to find exact confirmation within the manuals/ legislation but finding them and the terminology very hard going! It would be good to confirm how others are treating this.
Many thanks