Surrender by LT spouse of Testator (2018 Will) in favour of remaindermen DT. Is it a PET or a CT?

The Testator made his Will in 2018 and died March 2024. He left his share of the matrimonial home for his Wife on Life interest trust. The residue passes to Wife and if she did not survive him, on discretionary trust for his two adult children and their remoter issue

LT now wishes to downsize (permitted by Will) but also release the share owned by the trust and surrender her entitlement to the interest for an immediate advance to the two adult children.

My question is whether the act of surrender will be considered a CLT and subject to tax as a gift to the trust rather than a PET directly to the children? If a CLT is there another mechanism to achieve the same end without incurring the tax burden?

I cannot seem to find a clear answer by trawling the HMRC’s less than helpful manual so would appreciate forum members views from personal experience and knowledge. Thanks.

What is the remainder to the life interest?

Jack Harper

Hi Jack,
The remainder is the DT.
Thanks :folded_hands:

Kind regards,

Heather Jackson
Miss (she/her)
Wills & Probate Executive
For and on behalf of Macmillans Solicitors LLP
Tel: 01208 812415
Email: hj@macmillans-solicitors.co.uk
Manor House, Wadebridge, Cornwall PL27 6BS

It would seem that there is no power to appoint the trust capital to the LT nor is she an object of the DT. That would have offered a route to appointing the settled interest in the house to her outright so she could then make a PET.

I presume the children are objects of the DT, so that this objective could be achieved in a roundabout way. The first step would be for the trustees to exercise their powers under the reversionary DT by appointing fixed remainders to the children. The LT could then surrender her interest to them which would be a PET. (If she did not wish to give up all the value in the trust she could split it and make a smaller PET). Alternatively the children could assign their remainders to her (no TOV as excluded property within s.48) followed by her PET.

The fact that a termination of the settlement has a non-tax objective is a bonus because it neatly swerves several potential complications of this type of trust:

1 If the LT were to die RNRB would not be due on the settled share, though remediable if the children were appointed fixed remainders during her lifetime;
2 ss. 80 and s.102ZA FA 1986 are largely defanged when the trust is short lived.

There must be careful consideration of the timing of the trust busting operations in conjunction with the sale of the existing house and purchase of a new one, together with the funding issue. Presumably the current house will not be sold until a new one has been lined up but if the purchase of that can be conveniently funded other than from the sale proceeds possibly the purchase may come first.

1 CGT

At present each part interest of the house is accruing PPRR. If the trust is terminated before a sale the settled share will start to clock up a non-resident period if there is a surrender because it will pass to the children who I imagine cannot claim relief. If the termination is by assignment of the remainders it will pass to the LT who can claim relief until sale.

There is no problem if the sale precedes the trust bust.

2 IHT and GROB

A termination by surrender before sale will mean that the LT will continue in residence and so make a GROB until she moves out when there will be a s.102(4) FA 1986 PET (and no PET on the termination as no TOV then). A short interval is neither here nor there. No such problem if the surrender is made post sale nor if the children assign remainders , whether before or after sale.

It may be prudent for the fixed remainders to be appointed ASAP to remove the immediate loss of RNRB risk of LT dying. Once that is done the mechanics of the trust bust and its timing in relation to the sale should not imperil a future downsizing allowance: the settled share will be a QRFI whether it is sold out of the trust or extinguished by termination (however achieved) of the LT’s IPDI: s.8HA. Her own share will also be a QRFI. Other conditions will need to be met at LT’s death.

3 SDLT

The LT owns a part interest outright and another through her IPDI. It seems likely that Condition D will be met (replacement of main residence) —no doubt the 3 year period will not be a concern—but there may be the pay and refund issue if the purchase precedes the sale and before the SDLT1 has to be filed: SDLTM09800.

Jack Harper

If the trustees can appoint the interest in remainder to the children now, the release of the life interest will be a PET, although could be caught by s.102ZA Finance Act 1986 if the life tenant dies within 7 years of ceasing to occupy the property (if later than the date of the PET).

Any IHT liability arising as a result of the release will be that of the trustees.

Paul Saunders FCIB TEP

Independent Trust Consultant

Providing support and advice to fellow professionals

Thank you Jack and Paul for your comprehensive replies.

Unfortunately, the Will does not include any express overriding powers and just the standard STEP 2nd edition provisions apply.

Client lives with one child but the other lives abroad. Client wishes to sell trust house and use her 1/2 share together with the resident daughter’s share of trust (appointed out) to buy new house thereby releasing the other daughter’s share to help her with the purchase of property abroad.

Can the trustees appoint a fixed remainder to each child at the completion of the sale so that the Trust bust occurs at the same time as the sale and as client surrenders interest keeping it as a PET. No GROB and preserving the RNRB so just the 7 year rule to consider?

Thank you for your help.

I am not sure I fully understand the strategy behind the question and that emphasises the limitations of the forum. The tax consequences need to be dovetailed with the objectives of the clients, and any applicable constraints, which is the unique domain of tailored advice rather than of general observations made by commentators remote from the coalface. We also rely on the facts disclosed in the OP.

I am still not sure about the Intended sequence and timing of the purchase and sale transactions and, on reflection, I had assumed that neither child would reside with their mother. This however seems to be the present position as regards one of them and probably it may well continue.

There are relatively few complications, if any, with the child who lives abroad and wishes to use her share of the trust for her own benefit. How her share is extracted for her benefit does not matter but her mother must take care if she ever “occupies” a property bought with these funds. This is because of s.10ZA FA 1986. Like all GROBs it can be activated at any time in the 7 years before death even if not immediately after the deemed gift. To argue that her joint occupation of a house partly owned by her child (if that is the plan) is a GROB would be spiteful but some comfort is provided by IHTM14360 where HMRC say that s.102B is based on a pre-existing practice: so OK as long as by analogy with that section both occupy and mother receives no benefit (ideally pays all the outgoings). The problem arises if the child moves out when a GROB will arise unless by analogy again “full consideration on money or money’s worth” is paid by mother to child. Mother moving out is not a problem.

There is also an abstruse concern that the Pre-owned Asset Tax could apply. The law requires a disposal of land or a contribution to its acquisition, followed by occupation. The problem is that this can happen indirectly. The fiction for IHT is that an IPDI owner is beneficially entitled to the trust property (either the house or its sale proceeds). Is a surrender an indirect disposal/contribution? Similarly if the remaindermen assign their interests to the LT; despite being excluded property they have real value.

This becomes largely academic provided the mother uses only her own money and the child uses only what is distributed from the trust to purchase the new house as tenants in common with respective equitable shares proportionately to funding. But not entirely safe if what comes from the trust is to be regarded for POAT as indirectly provided by mother because co-owners are entitled to occupy the entirety. A life interest has some commercial value though that is not strictly a function of the actual or prospective value of the sale proceeds of the property in which the interest subsists. There is a specific POAT exemption where s102B prevents a GROB; if and as long as the circumstances are analogous (see above) it is to be hoped that in practice HMRC would ignore joint occupation for POAT also.

If joint ownership is the plan it might be preferable if, after the fixed remainders are appointed out of the DT to the children, the trustees then advance 100% of each share to them under s.32 TA 1925. (This is a post-2014 trust so that will be possible unless s.32 is excluded by the trust instrument). The argument then runs that the funds are provided by the deceased and not by the mother and her requirement to consent is not indirect provision of the advanced land or sale proceeds. Unlike with a surrender she is not actively instrumental in the disposition of the trust funds: she can prevent it by refusing consent but not secure it.

The timing of the DT appointments on fixed remainders and advancements can be effected over house or sale proceeds but the sale will be simplified if the trustees contract. S.28 will make contract the date of disposal for CGT. The DT appointment can be made at any time but presumably the advancements are really only needed after completion to release the cash funds. Synchronising the sale with the purchase demands the usual conveyancing ritual dance.

Downsizing will still apply for RNRB but s.8FA will apply, not s.8FB, if mother dies owning a QRI which will only be a part interest in the house (if I am right) and will attract a 15% discount if the child is in residence or 10% if not. Of course that interest or at least part of the estate, as the case may be, must be “closely inherited”.

Jack Harper

If the UK-based child is not to have an interest in the new house, contrary to my supposition, how she funds her mother to purchase the entirety will require an additional tax plan.

Thank you Jack.
Your assumptions regarding the timing of sale and purchase and that UK child will continue to live with her mother are correct. The intention is for mother and UK child to own new property in equitable tenants in common shares proportionate to the funding. Mother will have no interest in the foreign property bought by second child.
I sincerely appreciate your time and generosity of spirit to advise so fully. It is reassuring to understand that their intended course of action is possible and potentially capable of being actioned without there being a nasty unintended and costly tax consequence. Of course, should my client die within 7yrs of the advancement to her children that could change but I think that was a risk they all are prepared to take.
Best regards,
Heather Jackson

Kind regards,

Heather Jackson
Miss (she/her)
Wills & Probate Executive
For and on behalf of Macmillans Solicitors LLP
Tel: 01208 812415
Email: hj@macmillans-solicitors.co.uk
Manor House, Wadebridge, Cornwall PL27 6BS