Hi,
I am relatively new to the forum and this is my first post so I’m not quite sure whether I should post directly of go via this email address? I have only recently passed my Will writing exams and am now in the process of setting up my own business so apologise if my question is not a technically very complex one…
The Topic is “Will Attestation Clause”
As far as I can see, the standard attestation clause in will writing software such as ‘Will Suite’ or ‘Sure Will Writer’ is as follows; “We confirm this Will was signed first by xxx in our presence and then by both of us in the presence of xxx”
The Will writing course I have just taken recommended that “Witnesses should also sign in the presence of each other. In the case of a challenge to the Will each witness can then not only provide evidence that they themselves witnessed the testators signature but also that they were present when the other witness signed.” I am fully aware that, as per the 1837 Act, there is no legal requirement for witnesses to be present to witness each other’s signature, nevetherless this was suggested as good practice.
My query is whether anyone knows why it was decided not to add the words “and of each other” [or similar] at the end of the standard attestation clause in our Will writing software? I know that the Sure Will Writer for example will allow me to amend its standard attestation clause for a particular Will BUT it will not allow me to make this as a permanent change to all Wills I make, ie I would have to change each one individually.
I am very much in favour of using plain English wherever possible but ommitting the words “and of each other” seems to change the meaning and slightly weaken the clause? or perhaps it is felt that these few extra words really do not add anything of any significant value?
I note that the standard attestation clause still used by many law firms, although I do not suggest reverting to such ‘archaic’ language, does tend to refer to witnesses signing in each other’s presence, for example, from my late parents’ will, the attestation clause states; “signed by the above named xxx as his last Will in the presence of us both present at the same time who at his request and in his presence and in the presence of each other have hereunto subscribed our names as witnesses”.
In short, should I be concerned in any way about the attestation clause as it is currently configued in our software or might it perhaps be strengthened a little by appending the words “…and of each other”?
Kind regards,
John (Franklin)
Greendrift Wills & Estates